-------------------------------------- ICQ History Log For: 29054654 Ken Started on Fri May 19 00:36:49 2000 -------------------------------------- Ken 8/18/99 11:50 PM want the deencrypter for 1st class, $500, open up your icq and i'll send it Rodona 8/19/99 12:51 AM k I'll take it. Send it on over :-) Ken 8/19/99 1:30 AM u need to install on a machine with version 18 or 19 on it and icq me for an unlock. just send a check, it may need to be debugged. doug has a way to make 1st class mail at 500k per hr with telnet, coming very soon Rodona 8/19/99 1:31 AM k will do it. New version of First Class at 500k an hour? Ken 8/19/99 1:33 AM actuall on an oc3 box as in open a hosting account with telent should be 1 mil an hour, problem is would take you 2-3 hours to get ready for the evening mailing but he's talking 10 million a night, imagine the isp in the morning look out Rodona 8/19/99 1:44 AM Sounds great!! Ken 8/19/99 1:45 AM icq me a code when ready, doug is there now Rodona 8/19/99 1:45 AM k hang on. Rodona 8/19/99 1:46 AM 157-KCR2VAH Ken 8/19/99 1:49 AM did u get a computer id Rodona 8/19/99 1:49 AM 39819 Ken 8/19/99 2:01 AM here is unlock, this is brand new program may need debugging nTGW3-7F7BKDW-UFxNcUhzTzJ1Vvm-LZhWP Rodona 8/19/99 2:02 AM k just tried it and it did one list but then quit. I'm restarting it now to see what happens. Rodona 8/19/99 2:05 AM Once you choose your file then what? It goes right back to the same screen. Does it take a while for it to work? Ken 8/19/99 2:07 AM takes a while look at bottom see it ticking away Rodona 8/19/99 2:07 AM yeah I see it now. Just takes it awhile and I thought it wasn't working :-) Ken 8/19/99 2:08 AM ok Rodona 8/19/99 2:36 AM Commitments still there for the new FC? How much longer? I'm dying a slow death here :-) Ken 8/19/99 2:46 AM keep trying to get some more in place probably know more beginning of next week Rodona 8/19/99 2:46 AM k I talked to a few people today. Ken 8/19/99 2:46 AM any interest Rodona 8/19/99 2:47 AM yes as always but price gets 'em - cheap folks. But when it comes down to be able to mail and not being able to mail - they will go for it. Will it mail AOL is one question I get from everyone. Rodona 8/19/99 2:50 AM yes as always but price gets 'em - cheap folks. But when it comes down to be able to mail and not being able to mail - they will go for it. Will it mail AOL is one question I get from everyone. Ken 8/19/99 3:40 AM don't know we don't want to sell an aol mailer Rodona 8/19/99 3:46 AM I hear that - but it's on everyone's mind you know how that is. Ken 8/19/99 3:48 AM i can say it has improved randomizers Rodona 8/19/99 3:49 AM :-) - k :-) Ken 8/19/99 3:50 AM the aol crowd are the crackers not my audience Rodona 8/19/99 3:50 AM true - they don't see the future there. I get much better response from GI's. Ken 8/19/99 3:53 AM i know Rodona 8/19/99 4:39 AM Ken definitely got a few bugs :-) Just unscrambled a flash.net list and got altavista.com's instead :-) Ken 8/19/99 8:56 AM unbelievable are you sure u didn't change suffix or somethng, that is a big bug Rodona 8/19/99 8:58 AM I just did flash.net and it turned it into altavista.com as well. Seems to be consistently substituting altavista.net :-) I've only found those two domains so far. The other thing I'm noticing is that I am losing files once they are deencrypted. I just deencrypted ibm.net and now it's not there anymore? Weird huh? Ken 8/19/99 9:04 AM i don't know let me get into that tommorrow, now u do have a version 18 or 19 on that computer cause it needs it Rodona 8/19/99 9:04 AM 19 Ken 8/19/99 9:05 AM ok, try a reboot it may need to just get cleared Rodona 8/19/99 9:05 AM Now all of my files that I'm deencrypting are disappearing!! Yikes! Ken 8/19/99 9:06 AM whoa I can't believe this it's got to be in some other directory Rodona 8/19/99 9:07 AM Well it has been putting them in the same directory as I found them until about five minutes ago. I just lost ibm.net and worldnet.att.net. Gone. Ken 8/19/99 9:08 AM move them or have them go to another directory I will tell doug tommorrow Rodona 8/19/99 9:09 AM Never mind! Just figured it out...I wasn't waiting long enough for them to deencrypt before starting another list. They just popped up! Stupid mistake on my part. But the altavista.net thing is still a problem that he might want to take a look at. Ken 8/19/99 9:09 AM me thinks youse is tired get some rest Rodona 8/19/99 9:10 AM No doubt about it. Nothing has gone right today. Not mailing, not anything. Can't wait for the new First Class :-) Ken 8/19/99 9:11 AM ok let's get some sold, if these sell he has a way to make it go off of web relay at over 500k per hr, needs to bring in some sales Rodona 8/19/99 9:11 AM I think these guys I spoke to today will buy once product is ready. I told them no demos. Ken 8/19/99 9:13 AM that's all we need is one or two from you and few others and he'll pump this stuff out in limited quantities Rodona 8/19/99 9:14 AM k I sure hope so. How long before it's ready? Ken 8/19/99 9:14 AM days, he won't do a release until we have like 10 sold, Rodona 8/19/99 9:15 AM so we are close? Rodona 8/19/99 9:15 AM Have you talked to Greg Williams? I will if you haven't. Ken 8/19/99 9:15 AM I think so, have a guy out of town who is good for 2-3, we'll get there Rodona 8/19/99 9:15 AM so perhaps 10 days? Ken 8/19/99 9:15 AM U can try but I doubt he'kll buy who knows???? Rodona 8/19/99 9:16 AM He's wishy washy at best :-( Ken 8/19/99 9:16 AM no i'd say a lot less, hey we aren't fooling around, time for nash bridges be back at 11 and again in morning, one of few shows I watch, don't get mad at me Rodona 8/19/99 9:17 AM NP :-) Going to head home for the night. Talk to you tommorrow. Rodona 8/20/99 5:27 AM I have a commitment for another 4. Ken 8/20/99 5:27 AM 4 for $5000 you mean, right Rodona 8/20/99 5:28 AM yes - nothing is working for me software wise. You guys having any problems? Ken 8/20/99 5:28 AM what do you mean Rodona 8/20/99 5:29 AM No leads - nadda. Mail looks like it's going out but I've got absolutely nothing to show for it. Ken 8/20/99 5:30 AM this is a dial up issue or blocking are you seeding, if nothing else seed to another domain Rodona 8/20/99 5:30 AM yes and seeds are coming - using hotmail.com as my seed address. Rodona 8/20/99 5:31 AM Dialup is msn.com Ken 8/20/99 5:32 AM wellt hen it is blocking. if the seeds come through it is not port 25 blocked, the guy may be blocking big packets on port 25 by filter try single bcc for an hour and see what that does Ken 8/20/99 5:32 AM change dial-ups is first thing to do Rodona 8/20/99 5:32 AM using 10 threads and 9 bcc. Rodona 8/20/99 5:32 AM k I'll try that. Ken 8/20/99 5:32 AM when this happens change dial ups Rodona 8/20/99 5:33 AM k why would they block a biggee like msn.com though? Ken 8/20/99 5:33 AM i have heard of this before same thing another person if new dialup doesn't work then need to do a reinstall of first class, it'll retake your old code, maybe they found a way to hack in and mess something up Ken 8/20/99 5:34 AM might be filter block on port 25, something msn could afford to build Rodona 8/20/99 5:34 AM k perhaps that will work. I'll try all your suggestions and see what happens. I'm really spinning my wheels though. Rodona 8/20/99 5:34 AM yep they sure could. Ken 8/20/99 5:34 AM i've been getting out so have others Rodona 8/20/99 5:34 AM what are your settings? Ken 8/20/99 5:35 AM i go off of a server, 18-30 threads with 97 bcc Rodona 8/20/99 5:36 AM What do you randomize? Ken 8/20/99 5:37 AM use no from, no reply to Rodona 8/20/99 5:38 AM and it gets out? I thought you had to use a from field. Ken 8/20/99 5:40 AM no from field no no no blind header, no reply to try that Rodona 8/20/99 5:50 AM k I'll try that. Rodona 8/20/99 6:02 AM do you randomize the message id? Ken 8/20/99 6:02 AM yes Rodona 8/20/99 6:02 AM k getting ready to give it a whirl :-) Ken 8/20/99 6:02 AM ok need to be out but on cell phone if u want just call Rodona 8/20/99 6:03 AM k will do - thanks for the help :-) - as always :-)! Ken 8/20/99 6:03 AM ok let me know Rodona 8/20/99 6:03 AM will do. Ken 8/20/99 9:36 AM things get any better Rodona 8/20/99 10:18 AM I can't get it to mail without a from field. Ken 8/20/99 10:19 AM i get mine all the time try hotmail, you got a randomizer checked somehwere uncheck #2 on options and everything on fron tpage, if no good we need to go over it on phone step by step Rodona 8/20/99 10:20 AM k I'll try that. Ken 8/20/99 10:22 AM i'll call u since i am about to crash out and want to get you going answer phone Rodona 8/20/99 7:02 PM I did a complete reinstall and this is the code: 113-M3KKD2E Thanks Ken!! Ken 8/20/99 9:24 PM MrRiT-VZYDSVB-YlrAJRcCIfUYfdw-17vRE98Zq Machine ID: 39819 save code and machine id Rodona 8/21/99 12:11 AM Just got the code and everything looks great :-)! Thanks!! I'm off on a shopping spree for school stuff but I'll get busy with it as soon as I get home. Ken 8/21/99 12:30 AM think diplomas Ken 8/21/99 1:29 AM u getting out alright now Ken 8/22/99 1:20 AM working ok now Rodona 8/25/99 3:15 AM I'm mailing but haven't seen any results yet. Ken 8/25/99 3:15 AM mail into different domains Rodona 8/25/99 3:16 AM Been trying that all morning but nothing has shown up yet that I can tell I'm getting into those specific domains. Rodona 8/25/99 3:16 AM seeds are coming through though. Ken 8/25/99 3:17 AM if seeds are there you should be fine Rodona 8/25/99 3:17 AM I hope so. Rodona 8/25/99 4:10 AM Ken on domains that no longer allow you to use MX technology (like mindspring, sprynet, gte, etc.) how do you get in there now or do you just write them off? Ken 8/25/99 4:10 AM no i mail in there all the time, I usually use web relay and go off the servers we use Rodona 8/25/99 4:11 AM gotcha. That's what I figured but thought you would have some magic way :-) Ken 8/25/99 4:12 AM i haven't tried with direct recently, don't know Rodona 8/25/99 4:12 AM direct doesn't work :-( Ken 8/25/99 4:12 AM from them or into them Rodona 8/25/99 4:13 AM You can use their smtp's and that works but you can't get in direct using another dialup. Ken 8/25/99 4:13 AM they are blocking user assignable dialups, so you go to web relay accts Rodona 8/25/99 4:14 AM Do you know any good ones. Ken 8/25/99 4:16 AM no we have our own servers which are up then down then up then down they seem to last one or two days any of theem Rodona 8/25/99 4:17 AM k I can improvise :-) Ken 8/25/99 4:17 AM hang on new program lets you make up lists and mail where no extraction possible Rodona 8/25/99 4:18 AM How much longer?? I'm salivating :-) Ken 8/25/99 4:18 AM this week I'm pretty sure Rodona 8/25/99 4:19 AM YIPEE!! I hope so! Ken 8/25/99 4:19 AM me too Ken 8/26/99 3:53 AM u there Rodona 8/26/99 3:54 AM yep I'm here. Ken 8/26/99 3:54 AM gonna call u ok Ken 8/27/99 5:05 AM i'm calling Rodona 8/27/99 5:26 AM new program won't deencrypt the old FC addresses will it? Ken 8/27/99 5:26 AM no whole different thing but you have the de encrypter??? Rodona 8/27/99 5:27 AM yes but someone asked and I wanted to make sure - glad that it doesn't :-) !! Ken 8/27/99 5:27 AM new program will run de-encrypted Ken 8/27/99 5:27 AM i could throw one in to make a deal or something Rodona 8/27/99 5:28 AM k how much are they otherwise? Ken 8/27/99 5:28 AM de encrypters are $500 Rodona 8/27/99 5:28 AM k so I can mark 'em up if I want to sell them? Ken 8/27/99 5:29 AM sure if you can sell em i can go three for 1000 Rodona 8/27/99 5:29 AM k :-) Ken 8/27/99 5:30 AM i think the new one will go encrypted and de encrypted, but definately de encrypted Rodona 8/27/99 8:17 AM Ken can Doug do a search engine algorithm program built to specifics? Ken 8/27/99 8:19 AM why not Rodona 8/27/99 8:20 AM I have talked to you before about this company we are taking public. It's almost ready to roll. We want to do a special search engine for the portal - I'm trying to get the specifics right now. If interested will Doug be willing to give a resume of sorts (past work experience) as well as an estimate for the job? Ken 8/27/99 8:21 AM resume touchy rodonna due to our sordid other activities, can we use netmanor as a calling card Ken 8/27/99 8:26 AM how much money are we talking about re: the search engine Rodona 8/27/99 8:27 AM I don't know. I know we are required to furnish some info to the main dude, especially right now. On the main people involved anyway. I know Doug is really good at what he does. Rodona 8/27/99 8:28 AM I don't know offhand...money and stock which we feel is going to be really hot ticket. Rodona 8/27/99 8:28 AM Something similar to google.com. Ken 8/27/99 8:29 AM I am not sure he wants a resume floating around, we can see what the whole deal is, we can do it, he is degreed, 15 years experienced, many years as a development team leader for a massive telephone company Ken 8/27/99 8:30 AM we are doing an offering now with someone, unrelated to search engines. I am close to selling netmanor to guy who wants to put it into his ipo internet portal deal because it has close to 2 mil hits a month now. Rodona 8/27/99 8:31 AM IPO's are very hard to get through these days. We have been working on this almost a year now. Ken 8/27/99 8:32 AM the one today has the sec approval and permission to sell all ready to go, all he needs is the web site and bingo Rodona 8/27/99 8:33 AM cool. What is his "service" or "product"? Ken 8/27/99 8:35 AM a combo deal sort of like ebay/classifieds/other - hard to dewscribe not too good but has investors waiting, a slam dunk and with the money doug and I will then get it into profitability. I like ebay type thing Rodona 8/27/99 8:35 AM Investors are really hot for for any web related stuff :-) Ken 8/27/99 8:36 AM i know we are gonna churn out netmanors in assembly line fashion and sell them to these ipo guys Rodona 8/27/99 8:36 AM Makes mucho sense. Really want to do that but can't seem to get the $'s and time to make a go of it just yet. Ken 8/27/99 8:37 AM u need to get a guy in stock business to work with, can't do it all did you like my write up on new mailer, you can also use ghost to close a deal if you have to. Rodona 8/27/99 8:38 AM yes write was great! Explained alot of the details - and gives me something written to work with. Makes it much easier :-) Ken 8/27/99 8:38 AM they should sell Rodona 8/27/99 8:39 AM yes I think so. Have several people who really want the program but don't want 4 of them. Ken 8/27/99 8:40 AM we can't let them in for too little, crack risk. if you really know them try bundling two of them together but only if yoyu are sure of them Rodona 8/27/99 8:41 AM Yes I agree wholeheartedly. Two mailers I know of only have two systems so they don't need 4 copies. Ken 8/27/99 8:42 AM if they aren't crack oriented you can do it, does that help? Give them ghost, try to sell the deencrypter Rodona 8/27/99 8:45 AM Both of these guys are not crack oriented that I am aware of. They only mail one thing and have no contact to speak of with other mailers except myself. I taught both of them to mail. Ken 8/27/99 8:45 AM okay so split the deal up 2 and 2, will that work Rodona 8/27/99 8:45 AM k I'll see what I can do around that. Ken 8/27/99 8:46 AM good Rodona 8/28/99 2:58 AM FC ready yet? I have also mailed a ton for diploma...any #'s for me? Ken 8/28/99 2:58 AM count in tommorrow program ready yet ??? i'll ask Rodona 8/28/99 2:59 AM k was hoping to have it for the weekend :-) Ken 8/28/99 2:59 AM may be still i'll check Rodona 8/28/99 3:01 AM k just anxious to get to rolling with it. Ken 8/28/99 3:01 AM i know Rodona 8/28/99 3:02 AM got folks asking me to :-) Ken 8/28/99 3:02 AM ok we'll try Ken 8/28/99 5:41 AM no check yet too early download site: netmanor.com/sales/1stmlv22 Ken 8/28/99 8:50 AM isn't working for me I'm on it Rodona 8/28/99 6:46 PM Program? Leads? Ken 8/28/99 6:51 PM too early just got up, leads later for sure, will talk to doug later in day and see where he is at. i lost some time helping someone sue vixie with carl the lawyer, looks like theya re sending carl the money and it should go fast Rodona 8/28/99 6:53 PM Cool. Just anxious to get going :-) - really anxious to see how the leads are coming in. I've mailed alot so I'm antsy :-) Ken 8/28/99 6:54 PM that i can get from yakov after take my kid to school, still drinking coffeee aah a spammers work is never done. Rodona 8/28/99 6:54 PM Isn't it wonderful :-) - still in my robe ... Ken 8/28/99 6:56 PM the commute to the computer is really long especially if you get heavy traffic at the bathroom and refrigerator, gotta go drive to school later Ken 8/28/99 9:40 PM Please find new patch to nicname at: netmanor.com/nicname/nicname.exe Ken 8/28/99 9:41 PM 1st class version 22 Dig Deep is ready send the money - how many are sold by the way Ken 8/28/99 9:42 PM the count was low again does your phone end in 2925 are you sending out a message with a $500 gift in it??? Ken 8/28/99 9:42 PM the internic stopped working, you do have it don't you? so we patched it. Rodona 8/28/99 9:44 PM Our # is 2925 - how many? That seems unreal based on what I have mailed. I mailed to lists that have gotten excellent response on other things so I figured that diploma would go over really well. Ken 8/28/99 9:45 PM have you been mailing a message with a $500 free gift blurb in it? Rodona 8/28/99 9:45 PM yes I do have the internic one. I want four codes and I'll get on it and let everyone else that has expressed an interest know it is ready. I'll priority mail you a check today for the four - do you want me to overnight it instead? Rodona 8/28/99 9:45 PM yep! Ken 8/28/99 9:46 PM okay I thought you had one or two more sold??? Rodona 8/28/99 9:46 PM yes I think I do...got to get with them today and let them know that it's ready. Ken 8/28/99 9:46 PM don't use the $500 gift message it stinks, here is new message, next icq Ken 8/28/99 9:47 PM ok please I don't want to get into it with him on amount sold for release Rodona 8/28/99 9:47 PM That's not funny :-)! I just mailed a million to the $500 message! Rodona 8/28/99 9:48 PM I'll get with everyone this morning. Hang tight. Rodona 8/28/99 9:55 PM I'll get with everyone this morning. Hang tight. Ken 8/28/99 9:55 PM please I gottqa get the codes outta him Rodona 8/28/99 9:56 PM k I'm on it. Just sent everyone a message to contact me today. Ken 8/28/99 9:56 PM ok Rodona 8/28/99 9:57 PM Do you want me to overnight the $'s to you? Rodona 8/28/99 9:58 PM I know I can sell these if they work which I have no doubts that it will. Ken 8/28/99 9:59 PM ken biderman po box 12112 tallahassee, fl 32317 MUST WAIVE SIGNATURE so I don't wait online all day. I won't do anything with check until he says okay to start releasing so get as many as you can as I am doing too, we should be releasing sat Ken 8/28/99 10:00 PM it works and may need some debugging but hey it's 1st class, we just fixed internic didn't we , you didn't even know it was broke Rodona 8/28/99 10:01 PM yep I knew it was broke. Haven't been able to use it for sometime but I kept forgeting to tell you about it :-) Rodona 8/28/99 10:01 PM k for sure it will be released tommorrow? Folks will want to know and it's hard to sell something I can't produce. Rodona 8/28/99 10:04 PM I'm going to the post office in the next 30 minutes and I'll send overnight and waive signature. Ken 8/28/99 10:05 PM it is on the server now ready to download, i don't have a generator. i don't want to have a big drawn out with him over releasing so try to get all you can, tell me what you got and I can confirm or say wait, if you can get those other two it's gonna go down tommorrow, i'm pushing it ok too Ken 8/28/99 10:05 PM ok Rodona 8/28/99 10:08 PM What was the deal on the close - to close a deal we can offer them a deencryptor or a ghost? I forgot what you said about that. Ken 8/28/99 10:09 PM either one no problem Rodona 8/28/99 10:10 PM k that will help I think. Rodona 8/28/99 10:11 PM Any deals like before for the resellers - I'm not marking these up any because it makes the sell that much harder. What is the incentive for the resellers? Ken 8/28/99 10:12 PM resellers mark it up Rodona 8/28/99 10:12 PM What to? Ken 8/28/99 10:12 PM don't know ???? their biz, not to be too ghreedy Rodona 8/28/99 10:13 PM I haven't marked it up any. $5 for four codes is quite a bit of change. Selling them individually makes it an easier sell and gives room for markup. I totally understand not selling individually but it makes it hard for the reseller. Ken 8/28/99 10:14 PM u can group a few together if you really know them Rodona 8/28/99 10:19 PM Can you send the right diploma ad? And the #'s were? Rodona 8/28/99 10:21 PM Can you send the right diploma ad? And the #'s were? Rodona 8/28/99 10:24 PM Got the ad copy! Thanks! Can you send the #'s when you get a chance? Rodona 8/28/99 10:28 PM The new nicname - does it require a new code? Ken 8/28/99 10:45 PM the number fot today was 17 i already mailed you the correct ad, that ad was a trial ad that didn't pull well, I know you had the other ad, a friend of mine got the ad at an att account and asked me why it was going out and I said oh no Ken 8/28/99 10:46 PM new nicname shouldn't requirea code Rodona 8/28/99 10:46 PM Yikes! That's it huh? Well I'll move on to the new ad. Rodona 8/28/99 10:46 PM When I opened it up it was the code screen. Ken 8/28/99 10:46 PM it'll keep coming in but that 500 business seemed to make it sound flaky or something Rodona 8/28/99 10:47 PM Do I just drop it into the NICNAME directory? Ken 8/28/99 10:47 PM internic, see if you can find old reg file and reenter or old code Ken 8/28/99 10:47 PM copy and paste it into nicname directory Rodona 8/28/99 10:48 PM k that's what I'm getting ready to do and that should pick up the old code right? Ken 8/28/99 10:48 PM yeah gotta go in old directory just a patch Rodona 8/28/99 10:49 PM k it worked. Copied and pasted in and the program pulls right up. I'm going to run it for awhile and see what happens. Rodona 8/28/99 10:50 PM Do I leave the timeout at 10 and the skip lines at 13? Rodona 8/29/99 7:37 PM k I have two more sold I think. The guy is calling me this morning. The other gentlemen who was interested is on a pit crew for a major race team and is gone until Sunday morning sometime. I'll know more about him on Sunday. I will continue to generate interest and get more sales coming in. Ken 8/29/99 7:38 PM ok good Rodona 8/29/99 7:38 PM Things still looking good for today? Ken 8/29/99 7:39 PM didn't talk to him yet, too early will see what shows up in po box later ken Rodona 8/29/99 7:39 PM k sounds good. Let me know. Ken 8/29/99 7:39 PM for sure Rodona 8/29/99 11:15 PM http://www.netmanor.com/sales/1stmlv22/ doesn't pull up anything but the parent directory. What am I doing wrong? Rodona 8/30/99 7:33 PM First one: 160-U3KKEB6 Getting the other two loaded as we speak. Rodona 8/30/99 7:33 PM Computer Code for that one is: 39819 Ken 8/30/99 7:34 PM okay Rodona 8/30/99 8:27 PM 2nd one: 129079 160-ECXKP2MJ Ken 8/30/99 8:50 PM ok are there more coming Rodona 8/30/99 9:04 PM yes two more. My laptop will be the last. Ken 8/30/99 9:05 PM ok Ken 8/31/99 12:27 AM 1st one 160-U3KKEB6 39819 is computer code xMbDa-NFMGVFQ-5J68tGijCLEUJbD-AZZ3yLVhYpW Ken 8/31/99 12:27 AM 2nd one 160-ECXKP2MJ YQyyL-3V3YZJJ-wJG7ZGzaHMRiELXX-nCpH8+UyMM7 Rodona 8/31/99 1:12 AM Thanks! I'll get the other two codes to you soon. I can't decide which computer besides the laptop to put it on. I'm going back and forth ...got to make a decision :-) Ken 8/31/99 1:12 AM ok Rodona 8/31/99 1:13 AM I just tried to do an instant address generation for home.com - it stopped at 239k...I asked for 1 million. How big is the database? Sureley bigger than 239k? Ken 8/31/99 1:14 AM it is basically unliomited, give me some time to see what is wrong in middle of something right now need a few minutes Rodona 8/31/99 1:14 AM k also getting mucho errors everytime I try to do anything. Ken 8/31/99 1:14 AM well this is a brand new program, needs to get debugged like any other Rodona 8/31/99 1:15 AM yep no problem...just letting you know. Ken 8/31/99 1:15 AM i just need to finish proofing something i worte and get with you soon, can't do both toio much concentration needed Rodona 8/31/99 1:16 AM No problem :-)! I'm getting ready to go to the movies myself. Rodona 8/31/99 1:16 AM No rush on my end. We can work on it later today if you are available. Ken 8/31/99 1:17 AM ok doug is probably gonna be needed let's try for later on, i don't think hhe is at home now, i haven't gotten negatives from others yet, on different computers different problems are you on 95 or 98 Rodona 8/31/99 1:18 AM 98 on all computers. I'll try it again but the same thing happened on two different computers with the list generation. It stopped at 239k on both computers. The other one just stopped. I wanted to test it to see if it would do the same thing and yep it did. Ken 8/31/99 1:19 AM ok i think i know the problem i'll need him to fix, it sounds easy. did you use deep extract Rodona 8/31/99 1:19 AM Just list generation I think. Ken 8/31/99 1:20 AM try it with the deep extract number 5 say Rodona 8/31/99 1:20 AM k will try it. Ken 8/31/99 1:47 AM free now, u there Rodona 8/31/99 8:06 AM Reg Code 160-BBP2N3E Computer Code 25909 Fourth one coming. Ken 8/31/99 8:18 AM we'll try and troubleshoot if it is still happening tommorrow Ken 8/31/99 8:22 AM let me know on other sales. please keep the push on so we can release the next product - hi speed mailer Rodona 8/31/99 8:23 AM Most definitely! Ken 8/31/99 10:31 AM bdKec-QDCMNW2-dqjMVQGyskgZSP7-Y0ocdRSRUll Subject: 4th rodonna code Reg Code: 160-8R5MW7Q Computer Code: 82819 Ken 8/31/99 8:29 PM u there Rodona 8/31/99 8:35 PM yep Ken 8/31/99 8:36 PM me calling Ken 8/31/99 8:36 PM your line busy have doug on phone Rodona 8/31/99 8:36 PM on the phone - leaving a message right now. Call again in a one minute? Ken 8/31/99 8:37 PM ok Rodona 8/31/99 9:00 PM Sorry I had to run home but had to pick up my little one before he had a coronary. Ken 8/31/99 9:01 PM ok can we do this a little later on like before noon Rodona 8/31/99 9:01 PM k - is that noon your time? I have an appointment this morning at 11:00 my time. Will be gone for a few hours. Ken 8/31/99 9:02 PM ok wait a min Rodona 9/1/99 3:09 AM Ken need your council when you get a chance. Ken 9/1/99 3:25 AM ok want me to call ya Rodona 9/1/99 3:25 AM yes please. Rodona 9/1/99 11:04 PM Ken does the deencryptor do the new addresses as well? I'm finding that I have to sort the lists with FC before it will decrypt the lists. Time frame on the other two codes? Ken 9/2/99 12:02 AM i am screaming at him for the codes Rodona 9/2/99 12:47 AM k :-) Rodona 9/2/99 1:40 AM 3rd code? Ken 9/2/99 1:40 AM your icq messed up sent you 3rd and 4th, what did u get Rodona 9/2/99 1:41 AM Just the 4th one. Ken 9/2/99 1:41 AM ok icq made me go thru the server etc, took long time resen the third now Rodona 9/2/99 1:41 AM Now the fourth one is gone from history! Drat ! Can you send that one as well? Ken 9/2/99 1:43 AM wgrIB-9SH7RAN-tcC9QdxY.o0OKoJ-Dv2HG6H2BeI ---------- Reg Code 160-BBP2N3E Computer Code 25909 Ken 9/2/99 1:44 AM bdKec-QDCMNW2-dqjMVQGyskgZSP7-Y0ocdRSRUll Subject: 4th rodonna code Reg Code: 160-8R5MW7Q Computer Code: 82819 Rodona 9/2/99 1:44 AM k got both of those :-) - THANKS! Ken 9/2/99 1:45 AM ok sorry took so long Rodona 9/2/99 1:45 AM no real problem. Been playing with the two I have :-) - trying to figure out what works well, etc. Ken 9/2/99 1:46 AM there is a learning curve, what about other orders need to keep doug motivated Rodona 9/2/99 1:47 AM One wants me to play with it for a few days to see what I think and the other one is still playing mouse games with me. Ken 9/2/99 1:47 AM ok Rodona 9/2/99 1:47 AM Still working on it though and think both will buy. Just leary - been there done that kind of thing. Ken 9/2/99 1:52 AM i know I need to throw more sales at doug or he ain't gonna resell the hi speed mailer Rodona 9/2/99 1:52 AM We'll get them! What did you decide about netmanor.com? Ken 9/2/99 1:53 AM guy offered 30K, I said we could do it for 35, have another going thru our log files to verify traffic at 45K, I like it Rodona 9/2/99 1:55 AM I like that to! Good luck on it! Ken 9/2/99 1:55 AM thanks keep ya posted Ken 9/2/99 3:15 AM guy ok'd 35K Rodona 9/2/99 4:44 AM I've been mailing diploma heavily with the new ad so if you can get me an idea if the new ad is pulling some #'s it would be greatly appreciated. Ken 9/2/99 5:48 AM ok will do in morning Rodona 9/2/99 5:48 AM k thanks :-)! Ken 9/5/99 8:06 AM on friday you had 70 something, someone else didn't amil all week and had a count of about 150, just watch it'll get there I will get an update on patch Ken 9/5/99 1:34 PM hypermart? HTML you just type in html code nothing to it, but remember many browsers out there lots may not interpret it as html, this we avoid on GI Ken 9/5/99 6:04 PM don't know what hypermart is? Rodona 9/6/99 9:56 PM When will the patch be ready? Also do you have an updated count for me on diploma? I've been hitting that pretty hard. Rodona 9/7/99 3:13 AM k - question...how do you use hypermart and FC to mail? Rodona 9/7/99 7:43 AM Nope I mean how do you mail using hypermart ... I got some mail from someone using FC at aol - they were using hypermart19. mailserver. IP address matched. Rodona 9/7/99 10:40 AM It's a free hosting site. Rodona 9/10/99 12:20 AM Ken I know how Andy got the program. Shary just spilled the beans. Do you know Shary? Shary Valentine? She's been around for a long time to. Ken 9/10/99 12:21 AM i'll call you answer phone ok Rodona 9/10/99 12:21 AM on the phone with client - she just called. Hang on. Ken 9/10/99 12:21 AM ok Rodona 9/10/99 12:42 AM k I'm off. Rodona 9/10/99 12:48 AM Want me to call? Ken 9/10/99 1:04 AM calling now had netmanor buyer on phone with legalese Ken 9/11/99 5:19 AM no there is another holiday going on over there, can't get numbers until sunday evening, sorry but it is Israel Ken 9/11/99 1:52 PM yep Rodona 9/11/99 9:24 PM Got any diploma totals for me? Ken 9/11/99 9:24 PM oh let me call now Rodona 9/11/99 9:24 PM k thanks :-)! Ken 9/11/99 9:25 PM u like software Rodona 9/11/99 9:26 PM I do. I have another person seriously interested. He wanted me to try it for a week or so and let him know what I thought. He bought the older version from me/you. Small mailer who only mails for Viagra right now. Ken 9/11/99 9:26 PM viagra that thing should be spammed into ground by now Rodona 9/11/99 9:26 PM What I really like is the ability to build specific domains. Ken 9/11/99 9:27 PM i know Rodona 9/11/99 9:27 PM He does really well with it. I did a test mailing just to see what would happen. I don't have any results yet - they all go to a 800 # and then they sell them. Takes a few weeks to really know what's happening with it. Ken 9/11/99 9:28 PM i have gotten good feedback on response rates Rodona 9/11/99 9:28 PM Yes it's been wonderful! Ken 9/11/99 9:29 PM good, his line is busy, i'll keep trying Rodona 9/11/99 9:29 PM Hosting and dialups are my biggest problems now - if it's not one thing its twenty :-) Rodona 9/11/99 9:29 PM k :-) Ken 9/11/99 9:29 PM hi speed mailer solves sending Rodona 9/11/99 9:30 PM Do you have a time frame on that? Ken 9/11/99 9:30 PM hope this month or early oct Rodona 9/11/99 9:31 PM Sounds great...I'll keep fighting with dialups for awhile then :-) Know anyone who has hosting? With STRONG reservations I guess I'm going to Chicago to check out that hosting option. Desperation feeds it. Clients are screaming. Ken 9/11/99 9:32 PM hosting no Rodona 9/11/99 9:32 PM Me either - I've been using free hosting options for months now. Rodona 9/11/99 9:48 PM Ken do you know what Neil was receiving from Andy for travel leads? Shary was getting $.75/lead - if she went over 1000/leads a week then he would pay her $1.00/lead. She is feeling like such a fool. Ken 9/11/99 10:25 PM on top of head was over $1.oo per this pope guy needs to be blacklisted by us he is just personna non gratis Rodona 9/12/99 12:12 AM He says he has a hosting/mailing option. I don't know what to believe anymore. Ken 9/12/99 12:12 AM who Rodona 9/12/99 12:12 AM Andy Ken 9/12/99 12:13 AM hey i have a bridge in new york for sale Rodona 9/12/99 12:14 AM ok I'm pretty guible, hehehe, so I'll ask, how much? I'm laughing hysterically :-)! Ken 9/12/99 12:14 AM ask for a discount if you pay six months in advance with a wire transfer Rodona 9/12/99 12:15 AM :-) LOL Rodona 9/12/99 7:40 PM Ever get diploma #'s? Rodona 9/13/99 3:48 AM k last week's numbers was in the 70's right? Rodona 9/14/99 9:43 PM Have you heard about a program called Massive Mail? Ken 9/14/99 9:43 PM from tom Rodona 9/14/99 9:44 PM OHHHH! That says it all then :-) Ken 9/14/99 9:44 PM tom is starting to sell servers with al???? $6000 Ken 9/14/99 9:44 PM i think al will be sorry he went in with him Rodona 9/14/99 9:44 PM Yes I think so to. Did you tell him? Ken 9/14/99 9:45 PM waiting for israel to call me back Rodona 9/14/99 9:45 PM on #'s for diploma? Ken 9/14/99 9:45 PM i hear tom is a likely substance abuser and hear only bad about him, al came to me after it was over, i give this a 10% chance of success beyond 15 days Ken 9/14/99 9:46 PM yes, waiting for a call back Rodona 9/14/99 9:46 PM That's alot of bucks but I am having no success with dialups! They must be blocking the mail somehow. Rodona 9/14/99 9:47 PM Are you bouncing off a t1 somewhere or using dialups? I think Neil is having the same problems I'm experiencing with dialups. Ken 9/14/99 9:47 PM $6000 for a box some story about 15 or so ISP allowing their ip's to be used and tom mysteriously routing mail through their systems (sounds like relayed mail to doug and me) saying 4 mil a day per box, want 25 users, 100 mil a day, give them a few days and it'll all be down. with aol tom can stay up this is gen int Ken 9/14/99 9:48 PM go to web hosting accounts. there is a guy who sets them up for people charges $100 per, no guarantee how long last but he is anonymous pays with money orders Ken 9/14/99 9:49 PM i don't know if al is really suing vixie, i keep hearing about delays, i go 50/50 today, and if not by friday i'd say never Rodona 9/14/99 9:49 PM Really?? I thought it was a done deal? Ken 9/14/99 9:49 PM i think he foolishly put his money in with tom instead of lawsuit Rodona 9/14/99 9:50 PM Oh no! Doesn't he listen to others experiences with this guy? Ken 9/14/99 9:50 PM he said he paid and everything but always next week, next week. beyond me why he would lead me on Rodona 9/14/99 9:50 PM He told me that it was a done deal...the money was already spent. Rodona 9/14/99 9:51 PM I don't know why he would lie. He's always been pretty straight up with me best I can tell. He is evasive sometimes but aren't we all? We have to be. Ken 9/14/99 9:51 PM i really think tom is relaying the mail. that much mail into gen internet is gonna attract vixie big time and it will be over, doubt they'll get 30 days. now if he resells services he gets to mail for free, if he mails 4 or 5 days before others he gets 25 million out at least and that gets him thru the month, his name will be mud after this toim marraige Ken 9/14/99 9:53 PM he told me too, but why don't they serve him, he has a t-1 in europe that he can't mail on at $15,000 per month, unlikley he would delay, actually said he has two t--1 over there, plus he would want vixie tied up to let this deal work longer with tom. 2+2=5 here Rodona 9/14/99 9:53 PM I really hate that ... wish he had not gotten involved with Tom. Ken 9/14/99 9:54 PM wheni led charge with carl he said he didn't want to put anything in cause he was going to file his own lawsuit agaisnt aol, this was a long time ago and he never filed agaisnt aol Rodona 9/14/99 9:54 PM Makes no sense does it? He told me he had some things happening and would be in touch within a few days. I guess this is his idea of what's happening huh :-)? Rodona 9/14/99 9:55 PM Yeah that's for sure. So you think he is all talk? Ken 9/14/99 9:56 PM i think he is going ke hoolowel route. here is a box, give me $6000 a month and mail 4 mil a day. It is absolutely impossible top last with vixie, unless u only mail aol and then they may raid tom with warrants. a bad error in judgement Rodona 9/14/99 9:57 PM I get excellent response from AOL for some things...other things I get just as good response from GI. Would like to do both but sometimes that is just not in the cards. Ken 9/14/99 9:58 PM he spends money for connectivity for sure, but on lawsuit i don't think it's ever going to come to pass, if it was it would've happened. If one leads you on about one thing that person could do same about something else. I really like the guy, if he said he didn't want to do it, whay would i care. now i tell people it's happening and it isn't. He is gonna take a fakll with tom, how hard and how far is quertion Ken 9/14/99 9:58 PM no one every did a deal with tom and stuck with him, al can't even tell me how tom routes the mail. there is no way other than relay but i didn't tell al, deal was done Rodona 9/14/99 9:59 PM I just don't understand why he would lie about it? That's what makes no sense. He's had enough experience with Vixie to realize that he is a major problem. Rodona 9/14/99 9:59 PM Man oh man! I hope he doesn't lose his shirt on this one. Rodona 9/14/99 9:59 PM But the chances of him not are very slim. Ken 9/14/99 10:00 PM we have some serious security issues with hi speed mailer, we are thinking of a way around it, will probably require one to stay connected but will still be extremely fast, possibly $500k per hr and then some Rodona 9/14/99 10:00 PM Sounds WONDERFUL!! Ken 9/14/99 10:01 PM he is gonna resell the service to a lot of people, perhaps to apy for lawsuit but this i doubt, it is to pay for his line so he can mail and keep customers, if he doesn't mail soon he's gonna lose customers so he is desperate, but he took a wrong turn Rodona 9/14/99 10:01 PM Can I get that guy to set me up a hosting account? Ken 9/14/99 10:02 PM it should go 8-10 times faster than existing web mailer, so if you only get 35k an hour may only be 250K per hour. Other way software is tough to protect Ken 9/14/99 10:02 PM who al and tom Rodona 9/14/99 10:02 PM Looks like one box per client at 6k a month right? Or is he going to put more than one client on a box? Rodona 9/14/99 10:03 PM The guy who sets up hosting accounts with a money order for $100.00? I want to pay for one and see the difference. It certainly can't be any worse than a dialup and I'm hoping it will be much much better :-) Ken 9/14/99 10:03 PM he says one guy per box, he has many boxes. I think it is a desperate move to get mail out. if he gets 25 mil out his guy will sit tight another month Rodona 9/14/99 10:04 PM He has the one client? Ken 9/14/99 10:04 PM i don't know if he'll do one, but i will tell him to email you. I think he's not around for a day or two Ken 9/14/99 10:05 PM al has the one client. i am cultivating a guy to pay good money wants 1 mil a day every day, collects responses by email, so every 50K or so change email address for responses Rodona 9/14/99 10:06 PM Sounds like a good deal. Ken 9/14/99 10:06 PM we can not sell hi speed mailer and just form a network and wait until the big mailers fall on their face and then pick up their customers. right now this looks like a way to go. Rodona 9/14/99 10:07 PM k let me know how to get hosting account deal. I really want to try that. Rodona 9/14/99 10:07 PM I can set up my own hosting accounts right? Just need a unix server with telnet access? Ken 9/14/99 10:08 PM if we can get the hi speed to go at 400K+ per hour which doug says is easy we can all just work mailing and in a month or two have everyones customers. I put the guy in place opening web accounts, handle customers, and set up a few mailers and we are king of the business. It is real hard for visie to get us since we come from all different countries. We can also run netmanor things and go off web site evry now and then Rodona 9/14/99 10:09 PM Sounds beautiful. Ken 9/14/99 10:09 PM absolutely, try them in europe send then an international postal money order via express mail so they sign for it Rodona 9/14/99 10:09 PM Any idea how to find international hosting companies? Ken 9/14/99 10:10 PM u can use existing program and get 40K to 80K an hour now do customers like program, need more sales to keep doug motivated and programming Rodona 9/14/99 10:10 PM I am expecting a money order this morning for two codes. Was that quick or what :-)? Ken 9/14/99 10:10 PM search engines infoseek and alta vista search web hosting refine search as follows url:.uk url:.it Ken 9/14/99 10:11 PM in the speed of an icq u sold two i am impressed Ken 9/14/99 10:11 PM some russian named vadim and something else telling people 10 mil icq's for $500LOL ever hear of them Rodona 9/14/99 10:12 PM I thought you would be :-) - as I said this guy is a small mailer and he had to raise the money. I guess I'm a small mailer compared to some of these guys. Rodona 9/14/99 10:12 PM Nope never heard that one before. Ken 9/14/99 10:13 PM a joke, some guy is gonna try it Rodona 9/14/99 10:13 PM Why not for the $'s :-) Ken 9/15/99 12:18 AM if we build an automatic anonymous server finder do u think we'll find any Rodona 9/15/99 12:25 AM I'm sure you will find some but it's harder and harder to find them. Ken 9/15/99 2:30 AM u there Rodona 9/15/99 9:59 AM I'm here. Ken 9/16/99 1:38 AM did u get email from guy selling web accts Rodona 9/16/99 1:39 AM yes and I think I want to do that. Where do I send the money? Never mind! I think that info was in the email. Ken 9/16/99 1:39 AM ok he asked me sorry to bother you have you been seeding like we talked to see if they are deleting mail Rodona 9/16/99 1:40 AM yes but only using free sites that I have email addresses...so far all my seeds are still there. How about you? Ken 9/16/99 1:41 AM haven't tested yet, don't think free sites really care Rodona 9/16/99 1:41 AM yeah probably not. Ken 9/16/99 1:41 AM we're on it Rodona 9/16/99 1:42 AM Let me know what you discover. I'm anxious to know if that is actually the problem. Are you still getting into bigfoot.com? Ken 9/16/99 1:43 AM bigfoot no prob Rodona 9/16/99 1:43 AM I'm having problems...not getting all my seeds. Rodona 9/16/99 4:00 AM #'s for diploma yet? Ken 9/16/99 4:37 AM didn't call me I will keep calling, sorry Rodona 9/17/99 1:49 AM Ken you hanging around for the storm? Ken 9/17/99 1:51 AM I am 180 miles east of eastern coast, sunny and hot, no storm here, u ok israel guy left for romania, the wife has the numbers and I am waiting for them, the travel agency deal is coming to a close so that could be a breath of fresh air, junkets to sell etc. how are software sales coming, money in route to you???? Ken 9/17/99 1:52 AM gotta go out for a while Rodona 9/17/99 1:53 AM Great news about your location. They are saying that Jacksonville is virtually a ghost town so I was worried about you. Lead count would be great so we can know what to expect. Good news about travel agency deal as well. Yes I got the money today so he is downloading the program as we speak. Rodona 9/17/99 1:53 AM I'll send you a check in the morning to cover the cost of the two codes. Ken 9/17/99 1:56 AM we can adjust for your leads, i'll scream if not count by morning. After many years in calif earthquakes hurricanes aren' too scary - you have warning. fear is when the ground shakes and you are on the 26th fl of a hig rise that starts tilting and you think you're gonna slide out a window, be back later. you seem to be out of harnms way too Rodona 9/17/99 1:57 AM Yes thank goodness :-) Ken 9/17/99 7:47 AM count for 2 weeks , double count 164 Ken 9/17/99 8:46 PM did you ever hear of a guy named jim mora - selling 1st class Rodona 9/17/99 9:01 PM yeah he's in Vegas I think. Ken 9/17/99 9:02 PM ok he is selling 1st class mail any thoughts Rodona 9/17/99 9:02 PM As a reseller? Rodona 9/17/99 9:02 PM or cracks? Ken 9/17/99 9:02 PM yep i got one of his customers Rodona 9/17/99 9:03 PM I'm confused...he's not selling it through you but he is selling it? Ken 9/17/99 9:03 PM guy said it took him a few days to get an unlock code back, knew about computer id etc. I am getting an error code with de encrypter on his computer so I am suspicious. I have this jim mora email, icq and waiting for his phone Rodona 9/17/99 9:05 PM I don't know Jim at all other than the fact that he's in the email business and he mails porn I think. I know several people who mail for him. Ken 9/17/99 9:05 PM he ain't one of my dealers, when i hear vegas I think pope. I think we will prosecute them criminally if pope is involved, but he also sounds a little too legit, i never heard of cracks with a code that would mnean not only did theyc rack version 19 but made a generator, hard to swallow Ken 9/17/99 9:06 PM can we get more info on this guy please, a phone , a web site , an address something. If this is the crack lead I cane xtinguish these idiots once and for all, they are the ones who ruined our addresses on the GI Rodona 9/17/99 9:06 PM I know he and Andy are arch enemies so I doubt they are in cohoots. Ken 9/17/99 9:07 PM once again, it doesn't smell like a crack but I don't know this guy from a hole in the wall. I have a customer who says he bought version 19 from him Rodona 9/17/99 9:07 PM I don't have any info on Jim...Shary says that she has his ICQ # from dealings she had with him over a year ago. I can put out some feelers and see what I can come up with. Rodona 9/17/99 9:08 PM It's Jim Moore right? Ken 9/17/99 9:08 PM get me what u have and can get this could be a breakthru Ken 9/17/99 9:08 PM jim mora Rodona 9/17/99 9:09 PM No I don't know a Jim Mora. I thought it was a typo :-). The Jim I know has a last name of Moore. Rodona 9/17/99 9:09 PM Could be an alias I suppose. Rodona 9/20/99 2:06 AM Ken did we have 164 total? You said double 164 so I'm not sure what that means. Ken 9/20/99 2:10 AM 164 was the total for two weeks Ken 9/20/99 2:10 AM how are we pricing the two codes? Rodona 9/20/99 2:14 AM k gotcha. Ken 9/20/99 2:14 AM what price are we using for these two codes? Rodona 9/20/99 2:14 AM Sold them to him for my cost ... $2,500 for both. Ken 9/20/99 2:15 AM ok Rodona 9/20/99 2:15 AM Did you get the first code? He wants to wait on the second one. Ken 9/20/99 2:16 AM got it am sending it in now needed the price for bookeeping Rodona 9/20/99 2:17 AM k :-) - I have your check ready minus the 164 @ $2.50/lead so total of check is $2,090.00 and it will go out to your p.o. box on Monday. Ken 9/20/99 2:18 AM ok Rodona 9/20/99 2:18 AM k :-) - I have your check ready minus the 164 @ $2.50/lead so total of check is $2,090.00 and it will go out to your p.o. box on Monday. Ken 9/20/99 2:19 AM ok, if sending express PLEASE waive the signature or eklse I wait on line for a longtime dwelling on what u did to me, lol Rodona 9/20/99 2:19 AM I remembered that :-) - will do it! Ken 9/20/99 2:20 AM thanks oh how did chicago go Rodona 9/20/99 2:21 AM I was impressed but we'll see. We talked to everyone from the General Manager to the NOC manager to their legal department. Ken 9/20/99 2:21 AM did u cut a check for $5000 Rodona 9/20/99 2:23 AM Nope because my local loop charges are more than $1,500.00/month which would have been an additional charge. I'm going to hang a box on someone else's and share the cost. Ken 9/20/99 2:25 AM the problem is gonna be this: there is a lot of adult stuff going off of theese lines. That meand downtime is gonna be increased 10 fold. Normally can keep a line up 3-4 weeks, if this set up goes one week I'll take a hard look at it, at two weeks even harder, and after four weeks run a t for sure. If they make it into week five it'll go a wheile. Vixie is gonna see thru this and deal with the backbone harshly. Same old story vixie is quick death Rodona 9/20/99 2:27 AM Backbone has no problem with the content...even adult. All of the folks there mail only AOL so the heat will be less than if we were mailing GI. It's worth the gamble to me. I need something that works and quick. First Class (even the new one) isn't working off a dialup. Ken 9/20/99 2:28 AM i will look into what is going on with dial-ups, perhaps smaller ones are the way to go. consider europe and pay the 5 cents a min for the calls to europe Rodona 9/20/99 2:31 AM I've tried the small ones as well. They work one time and then they get smart and that's the end of it. It's frustrating to buy software that you think will turn things around for you and it won't because the dialups figure a way around it in no time. Software works great on getting new addresses though. But if you can't deliver your mail your hurting. Ken 9/20/99 2:31 AM i'm not hearing this. where is the blocking from isp dial-up? Rodona 9/20/99 2:33 AM They are blocking after some of the mail gets in best I can tell. We get some response but no where near what we should for the #'s mailed. It seems like a small % gets in at the beginning and then it continues to mail and you think you are getting in but they are just dumping it I guess. Ken 9/20/99 2:33 AM i know i'll call you, answer phone ok Rodona 9/20/99 2:33 AM k Rodona 9/20/99 5:15 AM Question: The att.net.rej is the bad addresses right? The .srt file is the sorted file, .txt is the text file, what is the .lst file and the .lex file for? I guess I'm trying to find out if FC puts the "good" addresses in one file or if I need to run the rejects against the list to get the "good" addresses. Ken 9/20/99 7:44 AM lst is last addresss sent lex is something to do with last or something for 1st class, should be a ikb file of not much value .txt is .srt with dupes Rodona 9/21/99 4:42 AM What are most people using for a dialup with FC? Ken 9/21/99 4:43 AM I don't know but i don't hear problems like I do from you elsewhere. alan gets people dialups and they seem to be mailing fine??? Rodona 9/21/99 4:43 AM I don't understand it! It's driving me insane! Ken 9/21/99 4:44 AM me neither are your settings messed up??? Rodona 9/21/99 4:44 AM I don't think so. Ken 9/21/99 4:46 AM mail with no from, no reply to, all randomizers on first page off, use host name mail. only watch your options randomizers too Rodona 9/21/99 4:47 AM k Ken 9/21/99 4:54 AM want to go over settings with me on phone Rodona 9/21/99 4:54 AM I'm using the web server relay right now to see if that helps. I had a hosting account that I've been using for CGI. I'll see if this helps :-) Ken 9/21/99 4:55 AM okay i think we should check your settings, unless u are certain u got that down Rodona 9/21/99 4:56 AM I have all randomizers off the edit. No from, etc. I have the two off under the options as well that relates to the usernames. Rodona 9/21/99 4:56 AM The only domain I seem to be getting into is hotmail.com. Ken 9/21/99 4:57 AM what is your host name Rodona 9/21/99 4:57 AM mail. Ken 9/21/99 4:58 AM on options check 1,4,5,6,7 Rodona 9/21/99 4:58 AM I have those less the #7. Ken 9/21/99 4:59 AM 7 can be a help, i'd use it for now Rodona 9/21/99 4:59 AM k I'll turn it on. Ken 9/21/99 4:59 AM are u checking delivery mode to make sure right box is checked Ken 9/21/99 5:00 AM worth a shot try changing your dns don't run lists thru bulkmate or his other stuff has a bad effect Rodona 9/21/99 5:00 AM Delivery mode? Rodona 9/21/99 5:00 AM k Ken 9/21/99 5:00 AM yes 50% of mailing problems i get result in having wrong box checked Rodona 9/21/99 5:00 AM k switched my dns as well. Rodona 9/21/99 5:01 AM yep got the right box checked :-) Ken 9/21/99 5:02 AM on first page the to, from,reply to are blank every randomize button (4) is blank Rodona 9/21/99 5:02 AM yep nothing there except the subject line. Ken 9/21/99 5:03 AM what is your message timeout set to on config tab Rodona 9/21/99 5:03 AM 30 Ken 9/21/99 5:03 AM ok try killing the seedinga nd see if it helps responses Rodona 9/21/99 5:04 AM k we'll give it a whirl. Ken 9/21/99 5:04 AM i can't figure out why you can't get in, you could try using a from field and see if it helps Rodona 9/21/99 5:05 AM I tried from's...I've tried everything I can think of. Ken 9/21/99 5:05 AM rodonna if this was universal i would have phone ringing off the hook, it's not Rodona 9/21/99 5:05 AM yes I know and that's what is even more frustrating! :-) Ken 9/21/99 5:05 AM no matter where u mail same thing Rodona 9/21/99 5:05 AM yes Ken 9/21/99 5:06 AM no mail or very little gets in each time Rodona 9/21/99 5:07 AM Best I can tell nothing has gotten in that I have mailed today. I got three responses from gateway.net and that is it. I've mailed 100k to five different CA domains, att.net, netcom.com, etc. Ken 9/21/99 5:07 AM i'll ask around and see what i can get, we'll solve it Rodona 9/21/99 5:08 AM k thanks!! Ken 9/24/99 5:34 PM i forgot to get lead count today, will get it by early sunday Rodona 9/26/99 2:53 AM Lead count for this week? Rodona 9/26/99 2:53 AM Other products still in the works? Rodona 9/28/99 7:08 AM Any word on lead count yet? New software, etc :-)?? Rodona 9/28/99 8:43 PM What is your #? I just got you call about Greg Williams! Wow! Hadn't heard that one yet. Ken 9/28/99 8:43 PM call u now Rodona 9/28/99 8:43 PM k thanks! Ken 10/3/99 2:55 PM your problem could be the pentium 3 security identifier Rodona 10/5/99 5:25 AM I don't have any PIII's that I'm mailing with. Ken 10/5/99 5:25 AM got it Rodona 10/5/99 5:26 AM Replied from two different computers :-) Ken 10/5/99 5:26 AM i know Ken 10/6/99 8:16 PM try to push some diplomas what was the name of their firewall product you got to keep people out of your system? do you want a check for last count or a credit against next software sale Rodona 10/6/99 10:19 PM Bonzi.com on firewall stuff. Check for diploma I guess unless software is imminent :-). Is there new software coming? How long and of what type :-)? Ken 10/6/99 10:22 PM will mail no problem Rodona 10/6/99 10:23 PM I'll push some diploma mail out later today. Will have a T up in a few days and that will open up my mailing capabilities a bit more. Ken 10/6/99 10:26 PM aah this is the pope deal or different Rodona 10/6/99 10:29 PM different. Rodona 10/6/99 10:33 PM different. Rodona 10/9/99 7:35 PM Ken if you will send me the ad copy for the travel campaign I can probably wrap this deal up today. Ken 10/9/99 7:37 PM let me call u ok, also have new count 76 I owe u for 76 + 62 = 138 X $2.50 = $345 going out today Rodona 10/9/99 7:37 PM k thanks!! Ken 10/29/99 6:28 AM week ending 10/29 count 22 leads Ken 11/8/99 6:45 AM i expect to have the verifier working with the universal address generator and vs 19 database, at very fast speeds ready for sale tommorrow sometime. try to pick up all info you can on verifiers - do they work with all dial ups only some or what. what kind of speed are they getting. what should this thing sell for. remember the others require you to put in a list ours will get every possible email address with universal address generator, Ken 11/11/99 6:14 PM just tested it it's done www.gradeworld.com/1stping99.exe then install patch www.gradeworld.com/1stping.exe install ping and over write file in directory after installing first file Tell me how many codes you want etc and request codes, once again pricing is 4 for $5000 and one for free OR $1500 each. It does yahoo, rocketmail, etc do not give this download to anyone, put on own server Ken 11/12/99 3:15 AM tommorrow new program time extractor/verifier that extracts everyplace on internet, yes every domain 100% works with database of addesses from vs 22, works with universal address generator, makes lists, uses your lists, works thru dial up or thru a web site on web relay. How much? Duh haven't set price yet, but I am keeping u updated which isn't bad, I'm trying Ken 11/16/99 9:18 AM http://www.gradeworld.com/1stping.exe Ken 11/16/99 10:15 AM ping code s8ukS-4YCKWQZ-o76AeSDMNNsMmnl-62mdXmPenqitrNI2 + Ken 11/16/99 10:16 AM ping code s8ukS-4YCKWQZ-o76AeSDMNNsMmnl-62mdXmPenqitrNI2 + Ken 11/16/99 10:23 AM s8ukS-4YCKWQZ-o76AeSDMNNsMmnl-62mdXmPenqitrNI2 + ping code Ken 11/26/99 1:08 PM u there Rodona 1/15/00 1:49 AM Ken are you there?